5 SINGHS ATTAIN SHAHEEDI IN LUDHIANA

[bodikutt]

Maain navan member han Ji
1- My First Question is
ki tusi daso ge ke Shiv ji da ling kiven katya gaya? Ate apne pati, peo ate bhra de sahmne Dhian Bhena us ashutosh de ling nu dudh pa pa ke hath laundian ne te Hinduan nu sharam nahi aundi?

2-My second question is
Dropadi de panj pati san.Janani si ke Veshya?

3-My third question is
Anjana de pati da nam Kesrin si ate Us naal Pavan(Vaau) ne intercource kita te hanuman da janam hoea.
Kise di patni nal je duja koi sambhog kare te us to paida baccha "najaij aulad" kehlanda hai.(Read Balmeek Ramayna Page No 1090).Ki Hanuman Anjana di najayaj aulad nahi kehlayga?

4- My fourth Question is
Shanker Bhang Post te Sompan karda si us te Narcotic Act. keon nahi lagya?
Oh tandav karda si us te RASUKA keon nahi lagya?
Us ne apne bacche te ik Hathi da katal kita us te 307 keo nahi lagi?
Ki eh Hinduan da devta?

5-jine apne bache da katal ker dita oh Hinduan da ki bhala karega
Shiv Shiv karte jo ner dhyave Balad chare dauru damkave(ggs)

Krishan kare to Rasleela
Ham karen to character dheela.

will continue.....

[Baazkhalsa]

What i see here is a really stupid individual....i think i know him from his writing style......saying all sort of rubbish against Baani of Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaj!

My benti is these Forums are not a suitable place to debate! Those who really want to learn sumthing or say sumthing or think that they know too much abt Baani, should come in Forefront and not sit behind luxuries of Internet and talk rubbish! Its in live debates the knowledge, the gyaan, the intellect is tested! not in these forums! So if Punjab Singh...u r in punjab....i'm ready to meet u anywhere u want ,to have a nice chat with u .....interesting one ,abt Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji!.....Accept my challenge or just stop ur bullshit on this forum!

This Topic started with a message abt Ludhiana Shaheeds and Fight against Ashutosh...and it has reached Baani of Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaj! Why???????? Simple reason being our enemy never wants us to concentrate on him...he wants us to fight in between oursselves..so that he's safe! and this thing happened here! NO one's saying anything abt Ashutosh....Sarsewala...Bhainarewala...radhaswami....no one's talking how shuld we tackle them...no one's talking how shuld we strengthen and Unite Khalsa Panth......only thing remaining is Dasam baani Bashing! and see........its really amazing......Radhaswamis, Nirankaris,Ashutosh,Saresewala...all use Guru granth Sahib ji's Baani for their Parchar.......even Asaram and morari bapu do that.......but none of them ever talk of Guru Gobind Singh ji's Baani, His Amrit, His Ardas, his Rehatnaama, His Maryada, His Khalsa Panth! coz Guru Dasmesh pita's Baani hits at their very roots!His Baani, His life, His hukams separate SIkhs frm others!

What is Dasam Baani?? Whats its Maryada?? Why Was it composed?? Is it Brahmanvaadi?? Is it from Shiv Puraan or Markandey puran??? Whats the use of Charitropakhyaan?? WHy Dasam baani is being targetted by Anti- Panth elements?? We will answer all these answers in live debate.....Each and every question will be answered.! Those who want to have it...plz contact me!

regarding Ludhiana protest..it was organised by panthic Singhs! out of 600 Singhs present,300 had come on call of Baba Ranjeet Singh ji Dhadrianwale! 100 were frm Shiromani tatt Khalsa! Others were from AKJ, DDT amd other jathebandis! And Darshan called them all ''kids of RSS''! See spokesman or check SSC website! so if u say tatt khalsa were there for protest..arent they also Kids of RSS accroding to Darshan?? Was Bapu Lohara a Kid of RSS?? Didnt he come on Call of Baba Dhahdrianwala?? Wat is Tatt khalsa doing today in punjab???? NO one even knows it or jarnail singh! But yes..PPl LOve Sant Jarnail SIngh ji Khalsa BHindranwale!

I challenge.....gather 100,000 Sikh Youth.....on one side Put Portrait of Sant ji! on the other hand put portrait of Darshan, kala afghana, Ghagga, Joginder Spokesman.........all the youth will go to Santji's side! And he was the one who did Parkash of Sri Dasam granth Sahib ji at Chowk mehta Headquarters of Damdami taksal! No SIkh is or will be more Intelligent than him! Youth of Punjab Love him! and will do so forever! And who loves Anti- Dasma Baani Cowards......Congress and Sarna! Sarna..who sends saroops of Guru granth Sahib ji in containers! Ghagga..who says stop saying Ik oaankaar..say IKKO! Spokesman wala..who Says shut all the Gurudwaras..life Guru Granth Sahib ji from Palkis and put it in Libraries!

Again.........the person who wants to reply to my post....plz be ready for A live recorded Debate On Dasam baani, within next ten days!!!!!!!!!! else ..keep ur mouth shut and go to ur house!

Akaaal ji Sahai
Mahakaal Ji Sahai

[Admin]

After receiving numerous complaints regarding this topic, its time to step in and make a few things clear.

bodikutt: Do NOT question Mehtab Singh about Hindu beliefs, he is an amritdhari Singh, not a Hindu. It's highly offensive and shameful on your part for doing this.

Mehtab Singh & PunjabSingh: Both of you seem have a dislike for one another, which is your own personal problem. Both have opposing views on Dasam Granth, and the reason Im not going to delete your posts in this thread is because, quite frankly what difference will it make? You will both continue to promote your views elsewere regardless of our actions.

The real shame here is that the kaum is being split by the controversial subjects which only plays into the hands of our enemies.

This forum is for the Shaheeds of the Sikh Panth, use it for that purpose, and not as a playground for your bickering.

[Mehtab Singh]

Tu layee fir apna baahman granth tay pooji jaa ohnu .But you cant force it on others.Now I understand clearly who is mahakaal kaa Sikh :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkNnFz8sde4

tu marde damm tak menu bahman kahi ja, lekin tere bhonkan da menu fark ni penda, tere bhonkan ton teri nasal pata lagdi aa...tere vargeya nu te Dasve Patshah de Amrit te rathi barabar sidak nahi, jeenu shakh ke jaat paat mukk jandi hai, jeenu shakh ke insaan Dasve Patshah da putt ban janda hai...u still havent said if ur Amritdhari or not...if ur not, u have no bloody right to question me...if ur, then u shud be ashamed of urself for questioning Dasam Bani, because 3 out of the 5 Banis recited to prepare Amrit are from Dasam Granth...Amrit is the beginning of Sikhi, jeenu Amrit diya Baniaan te bharosa nai, odi kaahdi Sikhi???? and then u question my Sikhi???u ask me to prove credentials???? shame on u!!!

you have been told a number of times if Kuldip Brar was Brar then Sant Bhindranwale was also Brar.Per tera dimaag yaa taan hai nahi yaa puttaa chalda.Bhang,Sukha,nashay peeyay gaa ya peen waleyaan dee sangat karaingaa taan aahi kujh hona Mahakaal day Sikha.

darshan ragi deya bhagta, nashe karke tu aunna ethe post karan, fer bhonkda aake apni asliyat dassda...there was a Sharma family from Patiala who had 7 sons...all of whom took Amrit and became Babbar Singhs, and all were shaheeds...so they also came from a Sharma family...plus my name is now Mehtab Singh, i am rid of ANY caste label, but u continue to use Brar which even Sant Ji never used...aap jaat paat shaddni nai te bahman menu kahi janda bhonk bhonk ke...

Vaisay jidaan tu behave ker reha hain ethay tay Sikhsangat vich Haankar,eerkha tay krodh vekha reha hain eh tera kasoor nahi kyon k Mahaal day Sikh(Bahman) daa aahi main character hai.

te jime tu bhonki janna oh darshan lal de sikhaan di asliyat aa...teri asliyat te pello pata si...menu hankaari kehen vaaleya,apne ander vi jhaati maarke vekh la...kaala hoya peya nafrat naal...apne aap nu Sikh keh ke inni nafrat???? inna jhooth bolda tu kisi de vaare even without knowing the person at all???? apne aap nu Sikh kenna???? dujje Sikh ton saboot mangda odi Sikhi vaare???? sharm kar la!!!

J asli Sikh hundaa tay kisay nu mentally retarded naa kehndaa.Kyon K koi v Sikh ajehi bhashaa nahi vartday.

menu kehen ton pella apne aap nu vekh...nafrat naal bhareya hoya aa tu Hinduaan lei...ki koi Sikh kisi ton vi nafrat kar sakda aa???? par mai tere varge vaaste vi kadi nai chaavanga ki tera accident howe, ja kisi nu koi satt vajje, kyonki mai os Patshah da Sikh haan jeene Bhai Kanhaiyye vargeya nu gall laaya si...bura mai tera vi nai chaavanga, even though u hate me, but as a Sikh i can't...im just abiding by the rules u suggested for this fight...itt da jvaab pathar, aahi keha si nah? aa giya svaad???

hunn himmat hegi aa te baazkhalsa di post read kar te ode te amal kar...we have repeatedly asked kala afghana followers to meet up for a debate anywhere in US or Canada, but they always run away...bahanne maardea...mere kol paise heni, mere kol passport heni, mere kol visa heni...pello bakwas kari jaan ge online, jad mard vaang blaao gall karn fer bahanne dassdea, ehi asliyat aa ehna di...

u know what dude, seriously, u've bored me way too much...its no fun at all arguing with u, because all ur doing is making this all a personal feud...i have NO regrets for anything i said to u, because u started it...but i did send a message to the admin and apologized if the atmosphere over here had been disturbed because of me...however, i repeat, i do NOT regret anything i said to u...u can hate me all ur life all u want to, im least bothered...tu jo karna kar la...jo kehna keh la...tere jehe bande ton mai koi certificate nai lena Sikh hon da...

hadh hundia...just because u got banned from Sikhsangat, saara iljaam ikko bande te sutti janda...u were put under moderation because of ur anti Dasam Granth posts on a pro Dasam Granth forum, inni gall magaj ch varrhdi ni tere??? and i wasnt the 1 who put u under moderation...100 vaar dass chukka haan mai ki why i stepped down...menu iljaam laayi janda ki im dividing Sikhs, jad ki i stepped down because i couldn't keep them united on the forum, and i felt i wasnt doing the best i could...i forced them to be united, but they wudn't stop fighting over jathebandi differences...so i said im done, im off...u started all this...ethe aake bakwas kari giya ki asi mehtab singh nu back down kraaya...teri aisi di tesi Bani deya nindaka, tu ki step down karauna kisi nu???

hunn himmat hegi te baazkhalsa di gall te gaur kar...menu ki keha si???? videos dekh???? hunn tu jaake baazkhalsa nu dekh...inne seminar hoye Dasam Granth te, odo kyon ni thoda koi soorma agge aya???? tusi log sirf internet te behke lalkaare maaran jogge ho...so maari chalo...im done wasting so much time arguing with u...but if u wanna continue, so be it...u will get what ur asking for...

and bodikutt, u shud ask those questions to a hindu on a hindu forum...not on a Sikh forum, and not to me...

[Mehtab Singh]

We knew Mahakaal day Sikh(Bahman) were liars but you have proved it here.

Here is Prof Darshan Singh on Nitnem baanis :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEBQcUp72Xw

shabaashe, praani video dekhaayi ja...navi kyon ni dekhaunda?

http://www.patshahi10.org/index.php?opt ... ent_id=265

Rochak Sharma I know you will skip these videos but it is for other Sikhs who see this forum ,for them to watch and decide whatever they want to themselves.

theeka, they will watch and decide...there are enough videos online, but u know what, ur darshan lal has had many of them removed...dekhenga???

http://www.youtube.com/index?ytsession= ... XcQO3LlpKg ...it says :This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Prof. Darshan Singh Khalsa.
and this video was titled as "YouTube - DARSHAN SINGH ATTACKS NITNEM!!!!"
hunn das??? dekh lei kartoot??? barrhiya videos post kari janna tu...tera darshan lal apniya delete karaayi janda...

We are not like you people who force something on others.We will let the sangat decide themselves.

sangat attacked darshan lal in bengal...hor tenu decision kehda chahida???

[Mehtab Singh]

This forum is for the Shaheeds of the Sikh Panth, use it for that purpose, and not as a playground for your bickering.

As I mentioned in my message to u admin, i apologize if i disturbed the atmosphere over here, but im NOT at all apologetic for anything i said to this guy. i was told that he is speaking lies against me, which i could care less about. but to see a nindak of Dasam Bani make false claims about a forum that supports Dasam Bani, and lies about the reason why i stepped down prompted me to come on here and respond.

[kamaljeet Singh]

To Admin..
As u said to my veer Mehtab Singh and Nindak Punjab SIngh about this forum being abt Shaheeds, i just wanted to remind u Mehtab SIngh is standing for honour of Millions of Sikh Shaheeds here!
Didnt all the Shaheeds from the time of Guru Gobind SIngh ji Maharj till Sant Jarnail Singh ji believed in Sri Dasam Granth?? DIdnt they respect baani of Sri dasam granth sahib as Baani of Guru Gobind Singh ji maharaj??
Didnt they asked for Shaheedi using baani of Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaj?
Didnt they believe in Amrit, nitnem and Ardas of Khalsa Panth??

Sri Dasam Granth Stands for separate identity of Sikhs...and speaking against it is back-stabbing Khalsa Panth and dishonouring our Great Shaheeds! Sant Ji said those who dont believe in Baani of Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharj are Naastiks ( atheists). Do u believe in words of that Great General of Khalsa Panth?? Shaheeds always need something inspiring, by reading which they get inspired to lay down their lives for Panth, in SIkh Panth, this honour goes to Baani of Guru Gobind SIngh ji maharaj! Those who disrespect it , they disrespect Guruji, Khalsa Panth and all the Shaheeds! So if u really do care for Honour of Shaheeds, then ''ban'' Anti-Dasam baani posts here on this forum! Shaheeds of Panth will be pleased much!
Rememeber one thing, Sarna, darshan, Ghagga, Afghana, joginder spokesman are not going to lead us on path of freedom, on Path of Khalistan! They are not going to get us frredom! but those who believe in Maryada of Panth, in Guru Granth and Sri Dasam granth are going to! rememeber my word!

Mehtab Singh veer.....May Waheguru ji bless u always with his love and mercy! you are much much better SIkh than the person who was calling himself a Sikh here on this forum , and dishonouring dasam baani and Shaheeds of Panth,and who ran away after being challenged for a debate!! keep up the sewa!
I hope u know me....Kamaljeet Singh Shaheedsar( Baazkhalsa)!
Waheguru Akaal Purakh will bless u more, the more u fight for ur Guru and his honour!

Punjab Singh...my challenge still stands! Tell me today or tommorow if u r ready for debate, and we'll fix some place to meet! Only u and me ,for a one on one debate and to see who's Bahmanvaadi and who's Khalistani!

Benti to all......This guy punjab SIngh asked abt Ghotna here on this forum....ever thought why?? Those who want to do sumthing dont go on forums and ask these types of things! its a conspiracy to ''mark'' and ''list'' singhs who keep a tab on Ghotna! if Punjab SIngh wants to do sumthing, he shuld go and do it, not get singhs marked here....just as Darshan used to get Singhs arrested who came to him for guidance on khalistan movement! Hundreds were got killed by that traitor of Panth!now he's out of Panth!

Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji!
Dhan Dhan Sri Dasam Guru Granth Sahib ji!
Dhan Guru da Khalsa Panth!

[PunjabSingh]

To All my friends and foes on this forum including Mahakaal day Sikh :

The day the Mahakaal day Sikh(Nangs) bring to justice RSS stooges like Asutosh,Panyaraywala,Saudhaa Saad Sirsa dera,Makkar,Badal,KPS Gill we'll believe they are Khalistanis.

Are Mahakaal tay Kalka day poojari Sikhs good only at threatening other Sikhs ?

Till then for us :

Bhai Jinda,Bhai Sukha,Bhai Gurjant Singh Budhsinghwala,Bhai Labh Singh,Babbar Singhs etc etc remain our real Shaheeds and Khalistanis.
The most recent being Bhai Navtej Singh Guggu,Bhai Harchand Singh who burnt nang Poohlaa,the Singhs who had the courage to hit Sauda Saadh near Karnal ,the Singhs who sent anti Sikh RSS stooge Ruldaa to hell are true Khalistanis.

On the other hand we have Nang Poohlaa(who killed unknown number of Singhs),Dhumma(who is famous for giving milk to KPS Gill and who became pagaurra after Ludhiana goli kaand).What they are doing far from the public eye only god knows .

Earlier I used to have some respect for Nihangs thinking they are Guru Ki Fauj but from now onwards after they have been exposed I dont consider them anything.However there may still be Nihangs who are Akaal Purkh kee Fauj but we dont know how to identify them unless they dissociate themselves from these Pagridhaari brahmans.

When Shromani Tat Khalsa Singhs were facing the Punjab police in Ludhiana a number of Akaalis(Kaalis)and Nihangs(Nangs) were seen in Asutosh's smagam.

The day Baazkhalsa entered this forum I knew it was Kamaljit Singh Shaheedsar.He had earlier been involved in the debate but left it to Mehtab Singh(Rochak Sharma).After seeing the whole debate,he comes and tries to start it once again.

Im not interested in the debate any longer as it will never end .Moreover there is so much matter on the internet that we dont need to say anything again and again.It is for the Sikh community to decide what is right ,what is wrong for us in Punjab.Neither can any one like me or Shaheedsar or any ghagha,afghana can force any viewpoint on anyone at the point of a gun.

For me from today onwards who ever gets justice from the anti Sikh people I have mentioned is a Khalistani even if he is mona ghona or even any Rangretaa Guru kaa beta.Vaikh layay apnay aap nu Khalsa akhvaun walay kaam,krodh,hankaar day bharay hoyay pagridhari baahman tay onay day kaaray v.

In the larger interest of the Sikh community I close my debate here as we can fight amongst ourselves later as it is vichaaraan dee ladai whereas our real enemies are others who are physically hitting us.Even Sant Bhindranwale had told us how a Sikh should behave with another Sikh.He had also mentioned the difference between Kaalis and Akaalis.

After reading all my points it is for the sangat to decide whether Im a supporter of police cats or Khalistanis.Even if you think otherwise it's alright.

The Ludhiana goli kaand and Prof Darshan Singh episode has helped us realise who actually our friends and enemies are.Everything happens for a reason.

I lose the debate,mein eis debate vichon personally kujh nahi leinaa,and I withdraw from it.

Shromani Tat Khalsa Zindabad
Babbar Khalsa Zindabad

[liberty]

Correction:
Kamaljeet Singh Shaheedsar veerji had never been involved in a "debate" on this forum. I love veerji's posts so I posted them on this forum under my id but his name signed under the posts!! and I also mentioned that the posts i posted weren't "written" by me! because I have no gyan so I stay away from debates .Sri Dasam Granth's topic started because i posted the post veerji had posted: it talked about how the sikh panth's situation.. (ludhiana goli kand and prof. Darshan Singh (wht he said about the people that were fighting against ashutosh)).

[kamaljeet Singh]

Waheguru! As my sister told, i've not been here on this forum! I came only after i saw the low level are people stooping to,just to proove their baseless points! How people who have come to sikhi are being insulted by so called ''khalistanis''( who dont even know the meaning of Khalistan)! How some people are playing into the hands of our enemy number one , Government of India ( GOI) by speaking against Baani of Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji maharaj!

I rememeber....Santji had said.....Sikho ajj sari duniya keh rahi hai k asi sikha de mooh te daarhi ,te Sir te kesh nai rehan dene! Hun aap naa daarhiya kesh katto, hun ta koi heela karo k tuhade kesh te daarhiya salamat reh jaan!

Can our Kesh, kakkar, baana, nishan remain alive without Baani of Dasmesh Pita?? Never!

JO Dasam baani da virodh karde ne,oh apne aap nu vadde panth dardi te Khalistani kahaunde ne, Shaheeda singha da naam ta eda lainde ne jidda ohna nu Mul kharidya hoye, par kade jeevan nai parhya ohna Shaheeda da! IK shaheed ajj tak di sikh history vicho dikhao jinne Dasam baani te kintu kita hoye, bhai Jinda-Sukha, Bhai Brahma,Bhai Budhsinghwala, Bhai Sukhdev Singh or Baba Manochahal???
I've asked a million times, give me name of One Shaheed ( in entire Sikh History)who didnt believe in Baani of Guru Gobind Singh ji or Nitnem or Ardas! Going by what these ppl say, all the Shaheeds were ''Mahakaal de Sikh''!and i'm proud to be a Sikh of Mahakaal Akaal purakh Waheguru, whom those brave Shaheeds of my Panth worshipped!
how can one claim to be panthic and Khalistani and show to be respecting Shaheeds by speaking against Baani of Guru Gobind Singh ji when all the Martyrs loved this Baani????
Jo log Panth di Maryada nu hi nahi mannde, oh Panth da ki savaar denge?? Spokesman wale joginder Singh warge Ki Khalistan bana k denge, jidi apni Kuri Hindu Naal Vyahi hoyi hai, gurgaon vich?? if anyone wants address, i can give that also! Oh Gaddar apni kuri Hindu naal vyah k te apne paper vich ''bahmanvaad'' di duhai paanda hai! Shame!!!!and his Hindu son in law looks after delhi office of Spokesman( So called Panthic paper)! Shame Shame!!!!!!!!

I too dont want to debate with those who dont have any respect for Baani, Baana and Panth Di Maryada, or lack courage to face truth in live debate! even i dont want to waste my time with those who are just internet heroes! If Jarnail Singh of Tatt khalsa is ready for a debate and courageous enough, i'll surely come wherever he calls me, With blessings of Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaj!
Only Benti to those reading this is, Respect Guru, respect Gurubaani, Whether it is in Guru Granth Sahib ji or Sri Dasam Granth Sahib ji!Guru will be pleased with u, rememeber, until we be Khalse, we'll not get any Khalistan! take my Word!

Slogans in names of Jathebandis havent done any good for Panth! we fought for 10 years under various jathebandis, nothing happened! in future also nothing will happen if we continue this foolishness!

Today panth needs only one Slogan , one Naara, one Awaaz........and that is

PANTH KHALSA ZINDABAD!
PANTH KHALSA ZINDABAD!
PANTH KHALSA ZINDABAD!

IF u Say this,Waheguru ji bless u all with his Love and Baani!

Akaal Ji Sahai
Mahakaal ji Sahai

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh!!!!!